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Posted: June 26, 2007 5:22 am |
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Carl
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AS a grunge lover great filter ron
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Posted: June 26, 2007 5:22 am |
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StevieJ
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+2 Carl knows good "grunge" when he sees it  LOL.....
Nice work!!!  Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Posted: June 26, 2007 8:33 am |
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Presidio
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Posted: June 26, 2007 10:42 am |
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Thanks Carl, Steve and Persidio. I am very proud of this one.  It may be slow out of the gate but I think if people will work with it a little they will realize that it has a lot of flexibility. I use a technique of using the edges of the image to glue the grunge into the cracks that helps sell the grunge. I tried to organize the controls in a way that allows the user to start at the top and work their way down to systematically select exactly the type, quality and amount of grunge they desire. Unfortunately the eight presets do not do a good job of representing the starting points for grunge generation; for that I would have needed 432 presets – and that is just the basic bookmarks for beginning the grunge generation. This is the first one of my filters that I think *should* go high even if it ultimately doesn’t.
BTW, if you want to use the technique of using the image edges to glue effects into the cracks then you can download my ‘Speedy Edges’ snippet.
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Posted: June 26, 2007 11:00 am |
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It may be slow out of the gate but I think if people will work with it a little they will realize that it has a lot of flexibility. |
I think this filter looks awesome! Great work. Revisit it in a month and you will be surprised how much faster you can make it without losing anything.
I think it is a HU
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Posted: June 27, 2007 8:59 pm |
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Revisit it in a month and you will be surprised how much faster you can make it without losing anything |
No doubt! When I look at filters I did a month ago I wonder what I could have been thinking
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Thanks for checking it out  @ronviers
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Posted: June 27, 2007 9:05 pm |
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No doubt! When I look at filters I did a month ago I wonder what I could have been thinking |
----Ha-ha, I totally have felt that way before, some of those first ones, ugghhh. But, luckily, we can update them at any time.
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Posted: June 27, 2007 9:23 pm |
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No doubt! When I look at filters I did a month ago I wonder what I could have been thinking |
I still do that but luckly I don't submit them..  Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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Posted: June 27, 2007 9:30 pm |
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Before we drive the usage down on this one too far I just want to add that this is not a poor performing filter. When I mentioned that it may be slow out of the gate I was referring to its adoption by users not to its render time. I do not want anyone to hesitate to download it and try it out because it is slow.
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Posted: June 27, 2007 9:39 pm |
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Presidio
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Preset 3 for my mousepainting
Preset 1 for the frame
Last preset on the font
click to view larger image~ 
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Posted: August 2, 2007 2:20 pm |
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Presidio
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This filter was not slow... fyi
I luvs it~
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Posted: August 2, 2007 2:22 pm |
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ronviers
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I like it Persidio, very nice.  You are much more subtle than I am. I usually pile on the grunge then overlay even more grunge so you can barely make out the image - nothing subtle about my work.
Thank you! @ronviers
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Posted: August 2, 2007 4:37 pm |
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Good choice for the name too  I like it!
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Posted: August 2, 2007 6:47 pm |
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Good choice for the name too |
Can't go wrong with a name like that.
Thank you  @ronviers
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Posted: August 2, 2007 7:13 pm |
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Thanks in general to the FF users that liked this filter enough to use it, thanks specifically to Carl, StevieJ, Persidio, Redcap, jffe, CFandM and Revelation for liking it enough to comment on it, and special double thanks for Persidio for liking it enough to bump it with a sample, triple thanks to Filter Forge for providing me with free access to the premier graphical application on the market. You all gave me my first HU! Hopefully it will not be my last. You guys are the best.
I needed some good news. @ronviers
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Posted: August 21, 2007 7:11 am |
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Carl
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The flood starts, you'll be drowning in HU soon, well done it was only a matter of time as you've made soom mighty fine filters
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Posted: August 21, 2007 7:16 am |
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Artists/designers love their grunge - I see it everywhere. I have no doubt that 'I2 Grunge FX' will be HU shortly - it should be editors choice. @ronviers
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Posted: August 21, 2007 7:52 am |
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Artists/designers love their grunge |
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it should be editors choice. |
I think their are some of us here who will never get an E.C
How's Maya progressing
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Posted: August 21, 2007 9:13 am |
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some of us here who will never get an E.C |
Strange but true - I have a theory as to why but I will leave the speculation to others.
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How's Maya progressing |
I am still at the introduction stage. It is going pretty well but there is some serious breadth I'm dealing with here. I will be glad when I get past the introduction of new material and actually begin a project of my own. It cannot be skipped though and it has allowed me to think about what I want to do. I can imagine projects that would necessitate a partner. A lot of the images and scenes I used to look at and see magic and mystery I now see hard work and attention to detail. It has changed me.
The hard part is that life is making a serious attempt to throw me off track - and life in this case is big and strong - I call it 'Mr. Life'. I hope it cuts me some slack soon.
When are you going to start Maya Carl? It's free you know..  @ronviers
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Posted: August 21, 2007 9:28 am |
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Congrats on the HU!!!!
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The hard part is that life is making a serious attempt to throw me off track - and life in this case is big and strong - I call it 'Mr. Life'. |
You're doing great! Just tell Mr. Life he really needs to stop doing steroids~
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some of us here who will never get an E.C |
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Strange but true - I have a theory as to why but I will leave the speculation to others. |
I've speculated.
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I can imagine projects that would necessitate a partner. A lot of the images and scenes I used to look at and see magic and mystery I now see hard work and attention to detail. It has changed me. |
Secret is the hard work.  Creating art has a way of affecting us in the most profound of ways.
Congrats again on the HU!!!!
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Posted: August 21, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Their's a magic word - how come - gimme - my only problem is the time needed to learn. Quote |
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'Mr. Life'. |
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I've speculated |
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Posted: August 23, 2007 4:39 am |
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revisit still one of my favorites
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Posted: December 31, 2007 12:59 am |
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ronviers
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Thank you Carl - it's no I2 but I'm still proud of it.  @ronviers
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Posted: December 31, 2007 1:08 am |
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StevieJ
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I think Carl might have clo......errr.....taken this one down to his "Advanced Research Laboratory".....  .....  Steve
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Posted: December 31, 2007 3:30 am |
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Carl
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Bad naughty Steve
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Posted: December 31, 2007 5:09 am |
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StevieJ wrote:
taken this one down to his "Advanced Research Laboratory" |
I would be flattered if it were true.  The thing I learned from this filter, the thing that I think put it over the top, was the value of adding a mode where the grunge can be applied without the external image (notice variations 2,7 and  . It might even have been worthwhile to add a mode where the grunge could be applied with transparency. Plus this filter has a huge range of possible grungy looks. It would take far more than 20 presets just to lay down the base modes.
I still don't think it has hit its stride popularity wise. I suspect it is loved by a few users that use the hell out of it and goes overlooked by everyone else. It is one that could have benefited from an EP - or at least I should post some samples. Then again, if I2 does not rate an EP then this one certainly does not. @ronviers
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Posted: December 31, 2007 6:53 pm |
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was the value of adding a mode where the grunge can be applied without the external image |
I did like that about your filter  After Steve made that cloning joke I'm reluctent to utter the words " I may in the future include that mode in a new filter " with your permission and credit for concept Quote |
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Plus this filter has a huge range of possible grungy looks. It would take far more than 20 presets just to lay down the base modes. |
I love filter that can give a good variety of results - some people prefer one trick ponys I guess there's a market for both
Ron we can only dream
Happy New Year Ron
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Posted: January 1, 2008 4:45 am |
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with your permission |
Proceed with my enthusiastic support.
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I don't have the technical aptitude Vlad is looking for; I'm more of a filter-by-heart person.  @ronviers
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Posted: January 1, 2008 4:59 am |
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I don't have the technical aptitude |
I think you do, and it only a matter of hitting the right cord for you [ I have no idea what that cord is  ] to get the coveted EP
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Posted: January 1, 2008 5:22 am |
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No.
But I do have visions that I want to bring to life; and the capacity to do it. I don't think Kafka could have been a mathematician but he was the greatest artist to ever live - IMHO. I'm not saying I'm Kafka or anyting, I'm just saying I have the aptitude I need to fulfill my own visions.  @ronviers
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Posted: January 1, 2008 5:44 am |
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there's a bohemian in you, I use to read a great deal when I was young now I never seem to be able to put aside the time. Sleep has alway been a punishment to me stealing a third of our life and our precious time for pleasures such as reading
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Posted: January 1, 2008 6:20 am |
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Imagine a young person today with a PlayStation, an Xbox, an internet connection and a stack of hiphop CDs. How difficult it must be to appreciate something like Kafka or Barthelme.
I sure do wish you would get started learning Maya too. I'm stuck and I have been for hours trying to get Maya to work the way I want it to and it sure would be nice to have someone to talk about it with. @ronviers
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Posted: January 1, 2008 6:32 am |
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How difficult it must be to appreciate something like Kafka or Barthelme. |
Don't worry they'll do a life story of Barthelme staring Bruce Willis and Paris Hilton with plastic action figurine in happy meals at Mc Donalds - culture is in safe hands Quote |
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I sure do wish you would get started learning Maya too. I'm stuck and I have been for hours trying to get Maya to work the way I want it to and it sure would be nice to have someone to talk about it with. |
I've got an old furry brain which is trying to absorb Dreamweaver at the moment some times I think I should have stuck with painting not so pretty pictures - I wish I could help, having some one clarify a few things can make it all fall into place
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Posted: January 1, 2008 9:19 am |
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