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SpaceRay
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Before there was cool and very interesting challenges to be able to make awesome and difficult things with Filter Forge (FF) and mainly uberzev and ThreeDee suggested to make many of these challenges with amazing and beautiful results

Hyperbolic Tiling Challenge

Cube / Isometric Challenges

Wireframe Sphere Challenge

Fractal Tessellation Challenge

Gosper Island Challenge

All these ones are from nearly a year ago, and since then it seems that there has been very little new challenges.

Does anyone want to suggest or make any new FF filter challenge?

here are some more challenges from a forum search
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Skybase
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You should start a challenge yourself, and contribute to this forum by also doing the challenge you set forth. I'd gladly follow you up on that. Otherwise if you got nothing, I got tons of nasty challenges I've tried myself but failed which can easily be new challenges for others.
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SpaceRay
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You should start a challenge yourself, and contribute to this forum by also doing the challenge you set forth


If I had an idea for a new challenge I would have already done it, and would like much to make it also myself, but I am not still enough FF skilled (still learning) for any complex challenge like the ones that have been already suggested before.

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Otherwise if you got nothing, I got tons of nasty challenges I've tried myself but failed which can easily be new challenges for others.


Well, if you have got a lot of ideas for challenges, you can suggest them, as you have said in another thread, no one is forced to make them, and anyone that wants to make them and feel inspired and confident that he or she could do it, would be good to see what happens.
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Skybase
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Right right, I understand where you are with your levels. I'm more saying you should make a challenge on your level. Even stuff like make 7 fun designs in 7 days is a fun challenge. Or make 10 simple textures in a month is a great challenge to pick up and try. Those challenges you've linked are exceptional. I suspect only 10% or 20% of the community to even be able to engage in them. Which is why they're impressive but they're quite reserved.

It's a bit idealist but I'd rather have a challenge where anybody can engage in them. People typically would just leave praise and stuff but what counts more is somebody at least trying to construct themselves a solution to that challenge. As an author, I sometimes feel like what I leave around just gets leeched off like items on a supermarket shelf. I'm sure people are better than that, but my point is that I don't want a challenge where nobody does nothing. I prefer to see effort made together as a group than 1 person trying everything. Sure we all have agendas in our lives and our personal problems but that's what a forum is, anybody can contribute material if it suits the topic.

But like I say, that's kinda ideal. In the end people are gonna be people so I don't expect anybody to be on the same page with me.

And sure! I had a couple ideas for a challenge which others will totally be able to join. But I really don't want it to just become "Oh hey pretty filters... here are some example pictures." smile;)

ye? smile:p haha. Nasty challenges are just nasty... smile:p let me just say I don't think they're naturally doable in FilterForge to begin with.

[Edit] Clarified some points.
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ThreeDee
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I just suggested this in another thread, maybe not the simplest of challenges, but here we go:

Make a flexible-layout filter that retains certain elements at a specific pixel size regardless of image dimensions.

One example comes to mind: A ruler filter (or snippet) which measures the actual pixels of the image, like Photoshop rulers.

Or it could be something else that demonstrates a similar idea in a workable fashion.

Hint: Ken's image embedding filter comes in handy for including pixel images.
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ThreeDee
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smile:hammer: ---> smile:ff:

A side note: I occasionally check the "Feature Request" threads to see if there is something that could be done with the existing tools. These could be used as challenges, too.
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Skybase
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You sir, have set for quite a challenge. smile;)
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Juliusz_K
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Hey,
How about more texture oriented contest. Not so technical, like the previous ones, but something where the eye for colours and material would be as important. Technical advancement would still help, of course.

An example: A snowy roof texture.
A texture of a roof with a slider for the level of "snowiness" - the snow would appear with respect to the slates/tiles shapes. Something along these lines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cienne/4...249228003/
or this:
http://www.bestourism.com/img/items/b..._15860.jpg

As you can see, when the snow starts to melt, it starts from the top, remaining for the longest time at the bottom section.

The shape of tiles/slates would be up to the author. And the more control over the way snow appears/dissapears the better.


Or another idea - copy a photgraph based texture as close as possible.
Examples:
http://www.cgtextures.com/texview.php...0cu992h021

http://www.cgtextures.com/texview.php...0cu992h021

http://www.cgtextures.com/texview.php...0cu992h021

The one who's able to mimic the texture closest to the photograph wins.

Feel free to come up with some other examples. But the general idea is to get some useful stuff as a result.
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SpaceRay
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Coming from this other thread following suggestions of Skybase and ThreeDee

Suggest a new filter
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My suggestion is to make this kind of rotated elipses that are filled with multiple colors and that each part of the shapes that cross with the other are with a different color, and as usual fr om me, would be good also that instead of only plain colors, could have also bits of images.


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I actually think that'd be worth a challenge thread. It's not particularly hard, but doing it elegantly is wh ere I got stuck. Given the fact that there are specific patterns going on is a challenge of its own. I suggest you upload your attempts along with the challenge if you decide to make a challenge thread.

You can do this two ways: build a generator that takes in parameters and outputs similar patterns. Or just build it "as is" which is easier. Building it "as is" would mean that you manually construct the shape without doing anything special. No parametric construction of shape basically.

Before I just... spoil the whole event I tried it myself.

It's not a happy elegant build. The last part is just brute force and it doesn't have the neat little white outlines, nor does it contain any patterning. But the shape's ok.



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My first attempt:



This is just difference-mode mixing of the ellipses, which makes way too many variations. Should really build the first step in grayscale and then apply color via elevation gradient. And separate the outmost parts on their own, as they are mixed with 4 different colors wh ereas the inner ones with 2 (per "ring"). Even then there will be further issues.

The original is likely done in Illustrator and colored by hand. Which could be done in a few minutes...


Yes, I agree that using difference mode is not the right way to do it and does not give good colors and are uncontrolled, and as Skybase has shown in another filter, I agree with you that the best way could probably be apply color via elevation gradient.

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The original is likely done in Illustrator and colored by hand. Which could be done in a few minutes...


YES, I agree with you and also think that this has been built by hand in Illustrator (or similar vector software) that is easy to make and fill the shapes with the colors you want easily, but this would give you just one and only version, and this is why I thought that maybe if this could be done in FF you could make variable elipses number and size and multiple them and be able to fill the shapes with different colors and even with bits and parts of photos sources.
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SpaceRay
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I think I have another possible challenge coming from the image shown in the home page of filter forge

It could be good to be able to have about 5 or 10 color controls to load your own images or photos and if wanted add to them a simple frame and scatter them as shown in the image below, and should have a drop shadow in each one

The problem I see with this is that in Bomber there is no spacing control or feature to control the images so I do not know if this would be possible to make or not.

Other problem would be to make them shown in perspective like the image below, BUT I think that it would not be needed to do it inside in FF, you could make it flat 2D inside FF in frontal view, and then take it into Photoshop (or any software that could do 3D transformations) and give very easily the perspective.

I have just tested and have done a filter that can resize and put an image inside a frame WITHOUT cropping and loosing any part of the photo or image as it happens in some frame filters, so this is not a problem.

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Skybase
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I have just tested and have done a filter that can resize and put an image inside a frame WITHOUT cropping and loosing any part of the photo or image as it happens in some frame filters, so this is not a problem.


That's kinda vague....

Wait so you managed to get the aspect ratio of an image from color control input?
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SpaceRay
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That's kinda vague....


Sorry that I may have explained wrong, I have seen on some FF filters that make a frame, that this frame is OVER the original source image and will COVER part of the original source image, so it will be cropped and you will be loosing a part of the original image, so the original image is NOT included inside the frame, is like the frame is "glued" over the original image

For example



Here you can see that the Lifesaver image is NOT the full one and has been cut and cropped when using this polaroid frame.

Here is another example



Well in my frame filter you can resize the frame and the original image will NOT be cut at all and will be FULLY included inside the new created frame, and nothing of it will be lost

I was going to submit my frame filter but I had a problem with a feature I want to add, and I could not do it yet.
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Skybase
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Oh right. Yeah, that's a nice touch on frame filters, it's always been a mild thing I thought around. I mean I can image what you did / how it works and so on based on what you're discussing. I guess that's a nice beginner mini challenge and again a nice touch on frame filters. Numerous ways of achieving the result and it's probably something easily managed.

The real challenge is what you said:

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It could be good to be able to have about 5 or 10 color controls to load your own images or photos and if wanted add to them a simple frame and scatter them as shown in the image below, and should have a drop shadow in each one


The frame component or any proportional gradient works based on what the canvas is scaled at, so much of the job's done for you when you import an image. The tricky part is with color controls, they don't come with everything you need to make frames directly as you'd get with 1 image. Soooo that's the fun part. smile;)

Again, this sort of thing is clearly something you do outside of FF. The program was obviously not built for it. You already mentioned that thought. But then again it seems more doable than I'm imagining.
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SpaceRay
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2 years after the last post, I want to make the same question of the title, now that there are new and experienced filter forgers that make cool, artistic and interesting things, like for example Rick Duim and Ramlyn
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