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soho
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Is it possible to make the filter type oil?

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Skybase
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Depends on what quality you're going for. Most of the "human touch" would be pretty difficult but the basic feeling of paint is not impossible.
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SpaceRay
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soho

Is it possible to make the filter type oil?


I think from my point of view, and suggest that to understand and know about what you mean with filter type oil, would be good to have the before image, and then an after image that shows the effect applied. Although maybe you do not have or find and example like this to show
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SpaceRay
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I have another suggestion for another filter that surely can be done in FF, specially now that the loops component is available, although I still do not know well how it works and still need more time testing and experimenting.

My suggestion is to make this kind of rotated elipses that are filled with multiple colors and that each part of the shapes that cross with the other are with a different color, and as usual from me, would be good also that instead of only plain colors, could have also bits of images.

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Skybase
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I actually think that'd be worth a challenge thread. It's not particularly hard, but doing it elegantly is where I got stuck. Given the fact that there are specific patterns going on is a challenge of its own. I suggest you upload your attempts along with the challenge if you decide to make a challenge thread.

You can do this two ways: build a generator that takes in parameters and outputs similar patterns. Or just build it "as is" which is easier. Building it "as is" would mean that you manually construct the shape without doing anything special. No parametric construction of shape basically.

Before I just... spoil the whole event I tried it myself.

It's not a happy elegant build. The last part is just brute force and it doesn't have the neat little white outlines, nor does it contain any patterning. But the shape's ok.

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ThreeDee
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Good challenge -- It seems simpler than it is.
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Skybase
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Maybe I should have planned it out first. I tried to get extremely elegant and probably missed the mark.
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SpaceRay
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WOW Skybase you got something similar, although is not the same, because your elipses you have done have ALL inside the shape the same color and I think that the different colors are just by using a blend mode (or whatever) between the elipses of different color (I mean the resulting color of mixing both colors of where both or more elipses mix) AND also the elipses has the same color in both ends of each one, and in the example above I have put above the elipses have all different colors inside and each end of each elipse has a different color, and also there is the white line that separates each part.

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I actually think that'd be worth a challenge thread. It's not particularly hard, but doing it elegantly is where I got stuck.


Well I did not put this as a challenge instead of a suggestion because I thought that it would not be too hard to make, and not really up to considering it a challenge, al least for expert and professional filter forgers that may of you are.

I have tried myself but do not know how to do it, as the only thing I got is something even less similar and worse than your example.
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ThreeDee
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This should be in the challenges thread...

My first attempt:

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ThreeDee
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This is just difference-mode mixing of the ellipses, which makes way too many variations. Should really build the first step in grayscale and then apply color via elevation gradient. And separate the outmost parts on their own, as they are mixed with 4 different colors whereas the inner ones with 2 (per "ring"). Even then there will be further issues.

The original is likely done in Illustrator and colored by hand. Which could be done in a few minutes...
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SpaceRay
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I actually think that'd be worth a challenge thread


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ThreeDee
This should be in the challenges thread...


OK I will transfer it to that thread so this thread is kept for what it is for suggesting filters.

I have copied the data above to the new thread so I will keep answering there.

See --> Does anyone wants to suggest or make any new FF filter challenge?
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SpaceRay
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I have seen another possible idea to suggest now that is available the loops component

Notice that the circles are touching each other exactly on the edge.

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Skybase
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If you check out my loops video tutorial, it basically gives you all the answers you need to make all these circle shape things you've been posting here.

Though I feel after 4 or 5 months you'd kinda figure it out DIY-adventure mode style but uhhhh... uhm... yeah... seems like you had tons of hurdles to climb. So to just give you a small bump, here's a method for doing the shape above. It'll need tons of improvement, functionally and technically before any practical use but it works anyway. smile;)

Simple Circles.ffxml
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Romaq
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Is there a more 'tidy' way to do http://filterforge.com/filters/5310.html with the shiny new Filter Forge 4? I'm really looking for a way to 'box' the 5310 filter so I can give it general noise effect multiple times. Or if someone could figure out a script that performs the same effect as this snippet, that would be very happy as well. I would not mind having to give it two inputs for 'northern' and 'southern' hemispheres, the big pain is the evil mess of getting the colors and effects I want as inputs, then having to duplicate ThreeDee's work with profile gradients and offsets. If I could just stuff all of that into a black box somehow to make the process its own "component", that would be very happy for me.
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SpaceRay
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If you check out my loops video tutorial, it basically gives you all the answers you need to make all these circle shape things you've been posting here


Yes, I have seen again your video tutorial that is very good, useful, helpful and like much how you tell and explain things in such a good way and with your good voice and natural way.

Thanks very much for the filter snippet to make this and making that the circles touch each other that is what I could not do and I have also lost the filter when changing from Windows 7 to 8, this is a very good start point.
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MamaJane
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Would love a shark scale filter that can repeat seamlessly - something like what shark skin looks zoomed in under microscope.

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ChristopherArt
Christopher
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I'm still hoping to find a good plaid filter using the open image's colors and that doesn't need to be square.

I'm also really hoping for a good working paisley filter. again I'd want it to use colors from my current image.

Even a nice diagonal (or multiple angle) stripe filter using an image's colors would be nice) if I remember correctly the one's out there either aren't angular OR they require pre-selecting colors in a filter.

It would be cool to have some way to generate damask like patterns as well (you guessed it using colors from the open image).

Of course, my dream filter would be one like the medhi kaleidoscope plugin (which I rarely use now since I'm using 64-bit Photoshop for everything and that plugin hasn't been updated to 64-bit. Yes, there are kaleidoscope filters for Filterforge but the results don't really look like what I was able to obtain with that plugin. I'd love to see it ported to filterforge or updated.
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SpaceRay
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ChristopherArt, I think that to be able to make the filters you suggest,from my point of view, it would much better and much more easy and useful to have some photo or image example of what you want in the same way MamaJane have made in the post above of you.

Maybe also and alternatively of putting a screenshot or image here, you could also offer a google image search showing what you want, or better to have both.
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EAdams

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Like ChristopherArt, I think it would be really cool to have a Filter Forge kaleidoscope filter that creates the same kind of images that the Mehdi Kaleidoscope filter creates. That is a beautiful filter and I have never found anything like it as good anywhere.
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ChristopherArt
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well there are plaid and stripe filters in the system unfortunately the plaid ones that use color fr om the images only work if the image is square and the stripe ones don't use colors from the open image, in either case the results from the existing plugins are not bad. a transparent background option would be good for the stripes. The lines should be parallel and not too narrow. Ideally have the option to set between vertical, horizontal, and angles inbetween like 45 degrees) Line width could be the same or vary some perhaps that could be another option)

Heres a link to the mehdi plugin which only has a 32 bit version, but there are examples on the page.
http://www.mehdiplugins.com/english/kaleidoscope.htm
It has options for the number of sides a kaleidoscope has, the way an image looks, and sliders for wh ere the kaleidoscope slices are taken from the image. I was often able to get 10 good images from one source image. The kaleidoscope image takes the entire image space. It is not repeated. actually there is a view of the controls on the page so you can see what is adjusted.

ok as for paisley, here's the wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisley_(design)
I don't want to say use X image since I'd want a mix of shapes and colors.They just shouldn't overlap and of course I'd want between 2 and mmm 5 colors taken from the open image.
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=pai...20&bih=803


now for damask. damask patterns are very useful for formal designs as backgrounds and well I remember having a damask pattern wallpaper in our living room when I was in elementary school. my mom hated it, but I thought it was cool. as mentioned above I want the colors (in this case design and background to use a color or colors from the image. or even better have the option of a transparent background)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damask
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=dam...20&bih=803

I don't want to say that I want the damask pattern to look like X image. It should be something that would have variations, but is still one side matches the other and like all the examples should be curvy and feel elegant. Most damasks seem to use 1-3 colors since the focus is normally on the pattern its self.
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ChristopherArt
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I'm not sure what else I can say to describe them.
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SpaceRay
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ChristopherArt

I'm not sure what else I can say to describe them.


Well, from what you have shown, the only help I can give is with the Medhi Kaleidoscope, as is the only one I think from my point of view and experience that could be done most surely in FF

I will have to see the secret behind the mehdi kaleidoscope and WHY this is different to others and what makes it special to know how to make the filter.

Have you tried already the many already available Kaleidoscope filters and none of them is what you want?

Is there any possible similar filter?

I do not say at all that the other suggestions are not possible, is that I do not know from my own experience
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christopherjohnson
Christopher
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No, none of the kaleidoscope filters for FF give results like Medhi Kaleidoscope.
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SpaceRay
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No, none of the kaleidoscope filters for FF give results like Medhi Kaleidoscope.


So then is needed to understand and know what makes the Medhi Kaleidoscope different from any other available kaleidoscope effect to be able to make a filter with this specific effect.
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Yuya
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Medhi Kaleidoscope works based on angles. The current kaleidoscope node in FilterForge doesn't produce that effect. We do need to construct that effect from scratch.
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Indigo Ray
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Here's a simple radial kaleidoscope (FF 4).

Radial Kaleidoscope.ffxml
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christopherjohnson
Christopher
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Thank you, I'll see how it works. smile:-) smile:)
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SpaceRay
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Here's a simple radial kaleidoscope


WOW!! smile:loveff: This is amazing, excellent radial kaleidoscope and very simple built using the loops and gradients, love it much AND I have seen that replacing the gradient you can have also variations of the kaleidoscope, and it works also very well on non-square images. Love it smile:loveff:

Thanks very much for making and sharing this
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Yuya
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Oh dear, what was I doing for all these hours lol.
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christopherjohnson
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ok, I've tried it on a few images. It doesn't do kaleidoscopes as good as the mehdi plugin does, but it is SO much CLOSER to it than I thought anyone would get to it with FF. smile:-)

great work! smile:)

Other than the three different modes you can see mentioned on the plugin page, the other thing that makes a big difference is the ability to sorta zoom in or out from the center. If I see something cool in the middle of something produced in FF, I can't have move the focus in closer toward the center of the image.

If only there were someway to convert a 32bit plugin to 64bit :-/ :'(
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inujima

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Here's a simple radial kaleidoscope (FF 4).

More simple way. smile:D

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Indigo Ray
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More simple way. smile:D

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Oh dear, what was I doing for all these hours lol.

...ditto. smile;)

Try this, Chris. Can't do "blend" mode with this method, though.

Radial Kaleidoscope 2.ffxml
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Indigo Ray
Adam

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Oh damn. Thanks inujima!

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christopherjohnson
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ok cool this version has a zoom option smile:-) Is it possible to add a zoom to the first version or does the way it is set up not allow it?

The smoothing feature works well when there are many sides, but it doesn't work right when there are only a few since it will actually add sides.

I don't mind not having "blend mode", I always used mirror and copy moving x and y and I used zoom when the center area was interesting. smile:) smile:) smile:) smile:) smile:) smile:)
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SpaceRay
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Is it possible to add a zoom to the first version or does the way it is set up not allow it?


Yes is very easy to do and here below is available the first version with the zoom added

Radial Kaleidoscope v1 Zoom.ffxml
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SpaceRay
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Also I have this other version with the option to choose from main image (loaded from the menú) or through the tint color control in the settings, the difference is that loading the source image through the color control you can go to the menu New Image and change the resolution of the final result output, something you can´t when loading it through the menu

Also another advantage of loading through color control is that you can save the preset WITH THE SOURCE IMAGE stored inside the thumbnail

Radial Kaleidoscope v1 Zoom Resize Color Control.ffxml
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christopherjohnson
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Thank you smile:-) I'll use the first one. I prefer using FF as a plugin with the current image. It works quite well now with zoom added. smile:)

Last night I was doing some random experimentation and I was looking at the setup of some stripe plugins. I saw I could take the source image and "look up" the color at certain places to get different colors from an image, but I could also see that there is no stripe element so there isn't a simple way to make stripes in more than 2 colors. I guess I'll just keep trying to modify existing ones until it works.
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SpaceRay
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I could also see that there is no stripe element so there isn't a simple way to make stripes in more than 2 colors


Maybe this other thread could help you to make stripes of more than 2 colors

Is it possible to have Multicolored Stripes for example Rainbow style

In this thread above, Mardar is showing some well done stripes, and the filter to make these ones is Primary Stripes by Mardar and also Multicolor Bands by Morgantao

Also the multiple colors stripes can be done using Profile Gradient or 3 and 5 Gradients components

For an example on how to make multicolor with gradient components see my own filters with stripes

10 Images or Color Stripes Mix V2.0 Basic Vertical
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SpaceRay
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NEW EXTENDED VERSION OF RADIAL KALEIDOSCOPE - LOOPS (By Indigo Ray)

I have made a new version of the first kaleidoscope version (with Loops) and have added some new options:

1 - Have made 30 new presets available

2 - Added the checkboxes to break and shatter the uniform pattern

2 - Rotating blades to move the triangles made and move the source image so you can have more variations

3 - You can have now radial (triangular) or Rings (circular) patterns

I also like the curious effects you can get when reducing very much the zoom, and get the effects shown fr om preset 24 to preset 30

For these kind of effects is wh ere the change from Main Control to Tint Color will be much useful, as you will be able to resize the output and get a bigger output than the original source image at whatever resolution you want, so you can see the presets 24 to 30 in bigger size.

Radial Kaleidoscope v1.5 Zoom More Controls.ffxml
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SpaceRay
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Here I have made a very different variation of this Radial Kaleidoscope, and have used 5 of the letters made very well by ThreeDee as source for the Kaleidoscope to be able to create curious shapes and be able to fill them with your own colors or images

See some of the presets included

Radial Kaleidoscope Shapes.ffxml
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SpaceRay
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I have found this beautiful circular colors gradiation, and think that maybe this could be done in FF with Loops rotating a shape that I do not know what should be, as it is does not seem to be a circle

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Yuya
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I have found this beautiful circular colors gradiation, and think that maybe this could be done in FF with Loops rotating a shape that I do not know what should be, as it is does not seem to be a circle


Absolutely. Built the shape first, then follow my tutorial. Pict = right ought of FilterForge.

Fun activity: achieve this picture. The goal: try getting it close as possible. If you don't get it, prove you've at least tried, I'll post the answer.

The thing I don't want anybody to do: whine that you don't know. Hints everywhere! Tutorial, forums, exemplar filters!

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SpaceRay
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CUSTOMIZABLE DOMINO TILES WITH FF FOR ART CREATIONS

Is curious that in all these years there is not available any DOMINO game tiles available in FF (as shown below) and I think it is perfectly posible, a domino piece is exactly 2 squares attached, and it has been shown by Skybase (see below) that is possible

You may be wondering WHY make this domino tiles?

Well there are lots of reasons and ideas for making this tiles totally customizables inside filter forge, as you could changed the dots colors, add images or colors to the tile itself, and so make domino artworks

One example of the many ideas I have, is what could be done with dominoes tiles in the same way that have been done with the lego bricks in Lego Mosaic by Skybase mixed with this Dice numbers bymeyendlesss

I will put a new thread about this domino idea, meanwhile see this Google images domino tiles examplesor also Gogle Images domino art

and as you can see in the second link, many have painted over domino tiles, BUT have covered the domino holes that is the most characteristic and interesting thing, so without this is just ONLY a small rectangular tile, and so in FF you could keep perfectly the dots while adding an image to the background, or even have two images (one for each square part)

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The goal: try getting it close as possible


For the above example of circular rainbow color gradiation I have put a new thread here to show what I have done with it and want to thank very much the help of Yuya to get right the final result

Rainbow Almond transparent shapes using Loops

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Skybase
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Great idea. Just did it.

Reads in images, will render out appropriate dominos based on darkness.

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Skybase
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When you tile them super small... you kinda get the picture.

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