Be able to have the FF Filter Snippets INSIDE the filter editor to use

My suggestion is to have INSIDE the Filter Editor a new pane, or tab, or whatever, where you could have direct access to the FF filter snippets that you have downloaded and available in your FF library

The main point of making Snippets is to help others making filters, so it would be much better if they could be available fr om inside the Filter Editor directly

As it is now, there are lots of interesting, useful and great snippets available in the FF Library, but the problem with them is that they are OUTSIDE of the filter editor, so if you are making a filter and you want to add a snippet you need to do the following

* save the filter you are working on
* close filter editor
* search in the FF library for the snippet you want
* open the snippet in filter editor
* copy all the components of the snippet
* close filter editor
* search again for the filter you have been working
* paste the snippet in your own filter

As I see it, is a lot of things to do for ONLY using one of the snippets in your own filter.

AND what happens if you want to have 2 snippets ? Duplicate all this twice !!

So as suggested in the begginning if the Filter Snippets could be available INSIDE the Filter Editor it would be MUCH faster, easier, useful and time saving, and would be as follows.

While working on your filter in filter editor

* open the tab or pane wh ere the Filter Snippets are
* search for the snippet you want
* select it or double clicking would be copied to your filter

That´s ALL !!

Or an alternative possible way if this is not possible or difficult

* open the tab or pane wh ere the Filter Snippets are inside filter editor
* search for the snippet you want
* select it or double clicking would open a new filter editor window with that snippet inside
* copy the components of the snippet
* close the snippet filter editor window
* paste the snippet in your filter

I think this would be very useful, time saving and very good to have

Thanks very much

Macros: probably been suggested a million times but we need it badly.

Another way I have just thought is to have two columns pane in the right side, I mean that now you can open the components window or pane will all the available components, and could be added another same window/pane that could have the FF snippets that you have downloaded so they could be very easy to use.

Also in this same new window/pane could be possible that you could add your own choosen components with your own configurations.

Good job SpaceRay, you completely failed my test on Macros.

I'm kidding, most people don't understand what the hell I'm talking about. So you basically scratched the definition of a macro in regards to Photoshop. Photoshop (or anything else like this) is a step-by-step operation based program and so when we talk about macros in that program, it's about repeating the steps again.

In FilterForge the application is different but the idea is the same. Imagine being able to zip a bunch of components into 1 single component. Each component IS an operation, a group of components performing to create a specific result would be a macro in this case.

So when I say "macro" I'm not talking about running the software using a set of actions, I'm talking about a set of operations inside of the editor.

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Imagine being able to zip a bunch of components into 1 single component.

I won't promise anything specific but please wait for the 4.0 beta

Now that you can GROUP components in FF 4.0, and make a new component from a snippet, it would be really good if you could INCLUDE or ADD this new group to the components list, OR be able to add this to the filters list in a way that you do not have to close the filter editor to be able to put this new group inside the already open filter.

Thanks very much for answering, if this would not be possible now, what about a very easy alternative that is just be able to OPEN TWO FILTER EDITOR WINDOWS?

More information here --> Allow to open TWO filter editor windows to be able to copy components

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Skybase Man... I've never seen such an avid software user that begs the developer to see other threads of individual interests.

I am very interested in this, as I think that this would be really useful and very helpful and would really love to see this being implemented in FF 4.0, and I do not think (really do not know) that this could be really very difficult to make.

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Vladimir Golovin wrote on September 14, 2012 Bringing user-added or downloadable grouped snippets (both official and community-made) into the FF interface is definitely a good idea. We've had some internal discussions about it a while ago. Don't expect it in this release though, as we already have a lot of work on our hands (the main thing being fixing the groups).

I did not answer before to this comment from Vladimir, as I want to thank and I am glad that you find it a good idea, and I understand that you may have had a lot of work all these months since september last year and could not think about this feature, and I think that probably now after fixing the groups, you had a lot of work with the Loops and also with the forthcoming Filter Manager, so I will wait patiently to see if there could be any possible news that could mean that it could be considering to have this inside FF 4.0 or not.

I am not requesting, or asking to have any information about this, just to remind about this feature and wait patiently and calm until something appears from Vladimir, GMM or the FF team whenever it happens.

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angelize I think this should be included in FF4.0 you've done the groups but this would make them much more useful.

I totally agree with you, now that the groups are available, it seems that is ONLY a organizing and aesthetic thing, and although good and useful, does not offer much more.

You can now use groups to make your own snippets, and convert this snippets as custom components, but this is totally useless if you can´t save it and use it inside another filter, I mean that now it is saved exactly same way as any other filter, so you can´t load it while making a filter.

So as is put in the title of this thread, it would be really be MUCH more useful and helpful if the groups could be already inside the Filter Editor and not outside as they are now.

LOAD or IMPORT FILTERS, GROUPS OR SNIPPET

Another different way to have also groups as snippets or custom component, would be if inside the Filter Editor you could LOAD or IMPORT external filters, groups, or snippets.

So for this you would not need to have a custom components bar.

Already in August 2012 was started this thread as I thought that one of the greatest additional advantages of having groups would be able to make your own components and use them as snippet, so you could save a group and be used in other filters as a component

Well, we are now in October 2016, reaching the official release of FF 6.0 and there is no news that after so much time waiting, this will be included

This would be really a very useful and helpful thing to have

there is another same topic related thread of 2013

Yes, I could not agree more. I keep creating filters with groups that just exist to copy-paste existing noise snippets into the filter that I am working on. I think someone should just put together a mockup that shows the feature how it is supposed to be implemented, just to give some inspiration. For the time being I could also live with having two node editors open to copy from one to the other.

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SpaceRay wrote: And seems that for FF 6.0 there is no news that it could be included

Finally this very useful and helpful feature is not included in FF 6.0. I do not know how is possible that groups was already in FF 4.0, and now in FF 6.0 there is no way so save groups as a snippet or as a component.

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raabix wrote: Yes, I could not agree more. I keep creating filters with groups that just exist to copy-paste existing noise snippets into the filter that I am working on.

YES, I also totally agree, that I also have many filters that the only purpose is to have them for copy-paste the part I need for another filter, but the problem is that I must follow all the steps shown on first post, so I try to avoid it when I can.

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raabix wrote: For the time being I could also live with having two node editors open to copy from one to the other.

Yes, if you could have TWO node editors windows, would be very helpful, as you could very easily copy from one filter to the other but you can´t have two filters open at the same time, and can´t have two FF at the same time