Beliria
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Heya Folks.
Question is when do I decide a filters not worth the time it takes to render? Irregardless of how nice it looks that is. And what is classed as to long a render time? Had a few that look really nice but have taken a minimum of 8 minutes to finish rendering. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: May 29, 2008 10:12 am | ||||
Kraellin
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answer #1: that will vary from person to person and there is no one single answer. me, i like filters to be as fast as possible and still get the look i want. if i have to sacrifice the look, then i'm reluctant to add speed. but, there's always a toss-up in any project, job or piece of work when talking about speed versus quality. spend too much time and nothing gets done. make it too fast and no one will buy it because of the crappy quality. so, it's always a toss-up. use your own judgement or sample opinions of the filter from the users.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 29, 2008 1:32 pm | ||||
Beliria
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Thanks for the reply
![]() Am currently making them for fun and sharing on here but some I haven't uploaded due to the OMG! It's taken how long to render!! moments I keep having. I still have them filters but am working on them, the Brocadette filter was part of a larger one I made. Due to the rendering times I decided to cut that section out and upload as one filter, will try and do the same with the other patterns I made in the fabric filter. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: May 29, 2008 4:24 pm | ||||
KGtheway2B
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I say personally: don't hesitate to upload them.
You should strive to make things run as fast as possible, read this: http://www.filterforge.com/wiki/index...nstruction ^^It's amazingly useful. But honestly computers are only getting faster so if you had a great filter that might be a little too slow now, there will eventually be someone able to use it with no issues at all. (And if the final product is nice enough, people will be willing to wait enough anyhow.) It's also important to keep in mind that filterforge is capable of creating enormous images: 65536x65536 (they state worked). No matter what you do in your filter it's going to take hours to render that size, so don't worry if it's a little slow in your smaller preview size since there's no way to tell what res people will ever eventually use. |
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Posted: May 29, 2008 8:44 pm | ||||
Beliria
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lol well I was thinking 8 mins plus at 600x600 seemed steep specially if someone wanted to use on a larger image. Mind I am one of them people that tend to have more than one program running... like say music while I work, and have psp running on and off at the same time too. So knowing my luck its them thats cutting the time of rendering that and I probably need more ram.
Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: May 30, 2008 9:31 am | ||||
Kraellin
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answer #2: i believe it was vladimir that said they reject filters for speed if they cant be rendered on a 1 ghz machine at 600 x 600 pixels in 15 minutes or less. (that may not be exactly correct, so ask vladimir or find the post he stated this in to be sure).
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Posted: May 30, 2008 1:23 pm | ||||
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---Yeah, but is that with or without anti-aliasing ? jffe Filter Forger |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 3:50 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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i dont recall, jffe. i would assume it's whatever you sent it in as, but that's just a guess.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 30, 2008 11:33 pm | ||||
Beliria
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Um.. mines a 3.8ghz machine, so I would imagine 8mins on mine would be more than 15 minutes on a 1ghz. But thats with them set to 5 samples on the anti-aliasing. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: June 2, 2008 9:45 am | ||||
Kraellin
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ok. well, one of the FF team shld really answer this. i'm just going by my poor, old memory here
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: June 2, 2008 2:06 pm | ||||
Beliria
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![]() ![]() Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: June 2, 2008 3:58 pm | ||||
ScaryKitty
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It sometimes takes a lot of tweaking to keep the look you want while speeding things up. My Soft Watercolour was very slow to update, and though Vladimir himself (!) liked it, he made a point to address the slow rendering:
However, it has a significant problem -- speed. It's slow to adjust, and quick adjustments are a necessity for this filter, because its defaults don't look very well on photos with people and faces. I worked a LONG time trying to speed up the filter without losing the details I wanted. In the end, there was a bit of compromise -- I didn't get exactly what I wanted, but it was fast enough to be no longer frustrating. Of course, as Vladimir's quote implies, it also depends a lot of on what the filter does, what people will use them for, and how the presets look "right out of the box," as it were. ![]() All this said: Quality first, but quality with speed is best. ![]() Kat
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Posted: June 17, 2008 10:26 am | ||||
Beliria
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Yep am working over a few of my filters I was having speed issues with, using that suggestion you gave with the painted tiles. Has helped iron out a few.. well the ones am working on, still have to go back and look at some of the others I just shoved to one side. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: June 17, 2008 4:07 pm | ||||
SpaceRay
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Question is when do I decide a filters not worth the time it takes to render? Irregardless of how nice it looks that is. Perfect question, it has happened to me sometimes that I see a really beautiful and interesting filter and it work well in a reasonable time with 600x600 but then I want to rise the resolution to 2400x2400 or 3000x3000 and it gets VERY slow and finally in the middle of the render I cancel it irregardless of how nice this is getting after about 20 minutes waiting. AND I have FF 3.007 and a very fast and new CPU - Intel i7 Sandybridge 2600K Quad Core 3.5Ghz so this is not the problem. |
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