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SpaceRay
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For the ones that do not know it Cinema 4D is a famous and well known 3D software

Adobe have just released the new Adobe CC collection of software and inside of this there is the new After Effects CC, and the most great news about this is that Adobe have reached and agreement with Maxon that are the creator of the famous and popular Cinema 4D 3D software and have included inside this new After effects CC a reduced "Lite" version of the recent Cinema 4D R14 that is given for free when you are subscribed to this software alone or when you join the creative cloud (there is two ways to get it).

Also is included the Cineware software that is a "bridge" software that will act as a manager between After Effects and Cinema 4D to be able to import and manage all the Cinema 4D content and plugins inside of After Effects.

AND what is also important and interesting is that this Cinema 4D lite version CAN be upgraded with a discounted price to the full Cinema 4D version

I have tried already before Cinema 4D and I think is the best, more friendly, powerful and easier to use 3D software I have tried from the ones available, BUT regretably after 30 days I could not pay the $900 prime version or $1600 for the Broadcast version and so have not kept using it and now with this it opens a new door to it.

Details of CINEMA 4D integration with After Effects CC

Adobe TV video about Cinema 4D Lite

Introducing Cineware and Cinema 4D Lite For After Effects

Cineware and Cinema 4D Lite FAQ

Video tutorial from the great and very good GrayScale Gorilla website showing how to use the new Cinema 4D Lite with After Effects

Cineware and Cinema 4D Lite For After Effects Users
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Pretty much an exciting... "tack-on feature" gateway-drug into getting Cinema4D <insert Maxon words>

Also, if anybody's planning on getting Cinema4D Prime, I highly don't recommend it. You might as well pay a bit more and get Luxology Modo. smile:p
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SpaceRay
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Here is an interesting news about this new alliance between Adobe and Maxon for Cinema 4D Lite and After Effects

Long and complete FAQ with many useful information about this new software

Sorry that I forgot to put the comparison table to know what are the features included in this "Lite" version compared to the paid one.

In the above link there is this PDF

Cinema 4D Product Comparison List - COMPLETE (PDF)

This is a list that is updated to include the new "lite" version

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Also, if anybody's planning on getting Cinema4D Prime, I highly don't recommend it, You might as well pay a bit more and get Luxology Modo


Well I have not tried Luxology Modo, and do not know, but what is true and I agree that if already have Cinema 4D Lite is not recommended to upgrade to the Prime version and would be much better to pay more for the Broadcast version

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CINEMA 4D Lite includes most of the functionality of Prime minus polygonal modeling, particles and character tools, includes some deformers and shaders
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SpaceRay
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I have not had time to test it myself as I had no time to do test and have to solve another thing in the computer before I can install the After Effects with this Cinema 4D Lite.

GrayscaleGorilla have made a new compilation of interesting and useful articles about this Cinema 4D lite, Cineware and After Effects

Greyscalegorilla Podcast: Cineware And Cinema 4D Lite Questions and Answers

For example including this Cineware and Cinema 4D Lite Quickstart Tutorial

Also in this other websites shows about the integration of Cinema 4D lite in After Effects

take a look at the most impressive new feature of the next version of After Effects
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Skybase
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Pretty... basic overall. Guess I'd do some nice little titles, maybe some scenery....

Note: Erm... 800x600 limit?
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Ok so fun bonus point: since this version of Cinema doesn't come with GI, you're basically forced to do something pretty epic: manually add bounce lighting to the scenery.

For most of my work lately I don't render GI or AO. I manually paint them in. There are instances where I do use them, but in general I just paint bounce light or use basic lighting tools to simulate bounce lighting. It's actually quite effective. I rarely spend time rendering things.

Cool thing I noticed is that they still give you the ability to deal with soft shadows and hard shadows, the basic lighting objects are available so most of the basic ideas would work.

The method goes for every location where any strong source of light drops off, add an subtle area light that simulates the bounce light (soft shadow enabled). For the overall atmosphere, make a cluster of point lights with skylight colors (or specific room or mood colors) and enable soft shadows. Basically, I manually simulate GI by putting a bunch of lights in the scene. Now dynamic scenery is a bit more difficult but by animating some of the light parameters it typically works.

The sad thing though is that there's no UV editor. That's a bummer. Means no ability to paint AO. Guess AO on Cinema is pretty fast. It'll most likely be less of an issue unless sample count is high.

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