Mondrian by Skybase

WOW! You have been able to finally submit this awesome and amazing filter, I will look how it works and see what it can be done.

Thanks very much

Thanks for the tip of changing the tiling using the "placement" and is true that is good to try it in different ways and see what happens and if it gives a better or worse result.

Now I have been able to try your awesome filter, and like much how you have done, and including the colorizing options gives even more customization options and you have also the color blend mode to have more effects.

Also is curious that a filter that is called Mondrian only has just one preset that can be in reference to this and there is only 15 of them so I would have added some more Mondrian color presets without images too, but of course this is just my own point of view, and you can do whatever you want, I can add them myself as they are just presets.

NOT COLORISING ALL AT ONCE

I have seen that is very good that you can choose to use all the 5 colorizers or only have some of them to be applied, as you can have just 3 of them and choose white color on the other 2 so they become transparent, ALTHOUGH this only works if you use a compatible blend mode that makes this, for example number blend mode 5.

So this way is good that you can control if you want to colorize Images 1, 3 and 5 but not 2 and 4.

JUST ONLY ONE OFFSET

Although as I said I like it much, there is something that I do not like and is that as you have said, you have put one only offset setting to move ALL of the images at once, and you can have any control of individual images.

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SpaceRay from this Sharing Noise thread You want to have a single set off x and y that would move all the images, BUT this would be bad from my point of view, as you could NOT control each of the individual images, I mean if Image 1, 3 and 5 is correctly positioned and the bad ones are 2 and 4, if you move all of the images then probably the 2 and 4 will be better but you will move away 1, 3 and 5 that has been right

I mean that if I like much how all the bits scattered of the Image 1 are positioned, and then I do not like the bits of Image 2, you can´t move and offset Image 2 because you also move Image 1, and also will move Image 3, 4 and 5 all together.

Perhaps this is not easy to do and I understand it if you can´t make that there could be individual controls for each of the images, but would be much better, perhaps I will make it as I have done in my own version as shown in the version I uploaded in the Sharing Noise thread, that have them individually although with errors but is better than having to move all of them at once and all glued together.

I do not mean of course to control each of the rectangles or square as this would be too much difficult, I mean to move all the bits that are related to the same image, as it happens in the filter I have uploaded with the 5 offset settings.

And to show that it works very well with rectangular images and does not show the black backgrounds as above, I have made also this other example that uses full filled textures.

Like much all the possible that could be done with this filter, and also I like that is very fast too, considering how slow is FF many times, because to render a 2000 x 4000 result only takes 23 seconds.

And here is the same as above in higher resolution to see better the details

On this textures based collages and compositions I did not need to use the offset in any of them as they are nicely positioned as the images were loaded at first, so I did not have to modify them.

I was thinking that it could be good also to mix both things the plain color Mondrian style with the textures behind with opacity, and I did not know how to do it until I discovered it using preset 8, if you have loaded your images already and using Blend mode 1 than means "normal" you can use the "Colorize" as a opacity slider and so reducing the slider from 100 to a lower value it will show through the images below slightly.

Also I have tried to load the same source image in all 5 color controls and now I changed to vertical size

Mondrian meets Tiger with another blend mode

You can post the "control freak" edition in this thread I guess if you'd like to. Albeit, it doesn't follow my philosophy of structured systems and generation. The key here is serendipity, rather than control. Control to me is a complication that cannot be overcome without the introduction of further sophistication. You cannot, for example, have control without introducing specific needs for that control. Serendipity is an approach to structured art like this. It's the excitement and possibility of finding a result that interests one than getting down with specific values for each slider. It is the art in finding the balance between enough control and the art of letting other specifics go.

Attached image: wallpaper version: 1920x1200.

Relevant:

How to Look at Mondrian

An up-close examination of Mondrian's Lozenge Composition with Yellow, Black, Blue, Red, and Gray

Colorization results in quite a load of fun results.

See, to me, FF was never built for that level of specifics. At the point that anybody's trying to drill down numbers to get specific results, I suggest just doing the same thing outside of FilterForge. You can easily use the filter to produce masks and export frames out for later use, and compile the picture just as the filter does. If you get cleaver, you can also export the XY coord image to offset images based on that for ease. Just that we all have so many different things we can do to compile the same result.

Either way, I'll more likely update the filter with additional designs maybe try a different approach like what ThreeDee did.

Well, I have finally made the new version will all the new individual controls for each image

I have made some testing with many settings and different results to check that with the new components and added controls does not give any unwanted error, so it has taken more time.

Also I have kept all the original settings and everything as it was the original filter except that I have moved the image input selection to the lower part with the individual controls.

Also I have increased the Repeat H and Repeat V values from 5 to 15, so now thanks to this you can makes much more complex and tiny rectangles as it is shown in the presets 17 and 18

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As it already put in the about tab of the filter I have added individual controls to each one of the 5 images, so instead of moving all the images at once (see first offset) you can choose to move, scale, flip and offset them individually and put them as you want. Be aware that the individual scale setting of each image only works right if you have first "Image Scale" in value 1. Also have added a Kaleidoscope option that is activated by the checkbox and controled with the Kaleidoscope settings. I have seen that you can still use the next variant button and get sometimes useful results. I have added 35 new presets over the original filter.

There is one downside for this new version, it does not allow to use seamless tiling because it uses Scale and other that are non-seamless components.

Here is the new version for you to try and test, and thanks to Skybase for letting me upload it here.

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IMPORTANT NOTE The filter is NOT a direct Filter Forge filter, it is in a zip file format because it has 545 Kbytes and is only allowed 512 Kbytes, so you have to change the extension from .ffxml to .zip and uncompress it, and then double click on it to install it.

It is only for FF 4.0 as the original one

Mondrian Kaleidoscope with Controls.ffxml

Spaceray, I get an error when trying to load Mondrian Kaleidoscope with Controls.ffxml

SAYS "Can not load Mondrian Kaleidoscope with Controls. File format is invalid"

So I can't load this into FF 4, anybody else try?

ddaydreams, It's because it's actually a zip file named as "ffxml". Just rename the ffxml part to .zip and unarchive it.

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It's such a control freak filter haha. I first opened it and I went "holy crap that's ridiculous" knowing it'd become like this. Allow me to be honest, I felt like this was such a "SpaceRay thing to do" and I just honestly laughed aloud thinking how many controls there were.

Here are some critiques to help some deeper and tighter feature implementation:
So now the SR control freak version has a major drawback: it no longer visually works with the next-variant button! I mean, it does work with the next-variant button, but the output is simply unpredictable. I would have appreciated some investment in attempting to preserve important features like that, rather than a simple "tack-on" modification that doesn't honor it.

The kaleidoscope mode can be implemented in a healthier manner. I like the idea, but the implementation is outside the filter and not really tightly part of it. So that's something to think of too. It's just my thought about how to honor the appearance while pursuing new appearances.

So let me just say that I design my filter like that too. When I update filters with additional features, I want to make sure it honors past appearances and functionality and that it adds new features in a tightly knit manner while creating bigger variability and interest. This really helps the filter's final output and keeps render times low! Just my philosophy, but it's something that I worked my entire life around.

Cool stuff regardless!

Edit: To be fair, I feel like I'm critiquing too much out of a casual modification maybe a bit over load for SpaceRay here.

I have just found this filter, and it seems that it uses the same very good and beautiful technique from the Hexagons Parade that I like it much, and on this filter it even looks better and much more customizable with many different frame options and colors

Congratulations for making this very artistic and cool filter, love it

Will try to see and understand how it works and what is the secret behind this very interesting technique

Thanks very much to SpaceRay for all the beautiful and great examples shown here, like them and shows what can be done with this filter

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I am making a new version with additional complexity and more options

I'm honestly hoping you don't make silly versions with a gajillion sliders on it.

[edit] I really mean that. :/ I just think filters with unnecessary numbers of controllers are poorly designed.

Unless you got something better to bring to the table.

Phew lol.

Of course you can. This is the beauty of FilterForge. You can just readapt old things with new things. Great idea will submit this version too lol.