Follow an edge

had this filter since v2 and always end up putting it away out of frustration of not working out a solution. The problem is that this filter [ Tapestry ] I want to run stitching around the edges, with the stitches running along in the right direction. Here is a sample pic with poor edge stitching, anyone knows the answer it would be much appreciated, other wise this filters going in the bin

Carl, whatever you do, PLEASE upload this filter!
I know it's not exactly the effect you're going for, but it could work very well for something I've always wanted.

Uberzev, I think what Carl was going for is something like:


Or better yet, this:



Notice the stitching direction on the horse's mane.

First of all, I like Morgantao and ronjonnie ALSO think that this should be uploaded OR put in the forum instead of throwing it aways, although perhaps is not what YOU want, this is really awesome and very WELL DONE the stitching effect.

Also you can give an option to have the stitching THIS WAY that is ALSO looking good and interesting AND also if you can do it YOUR way would be good too, but I think that BOTH ways could be available so you can choose.

Quote
I want to run stitching around the edges, with the stitches running along in the right direction.

Do you mean that you want that the filter finds the edges and then make a stitching all along that edge AND that the stitching goes in the same way of the edge SHAPE?

I can suggest that perhaps you can draw by hand over the example HOW the stitching should really be according to your own idea.

I that Morgantao have put great examples of directional stitching and here I have others that shows stitching on edges, although obviously here the edges are CLEARLY defined and what you want is a WAY to find the edges.

Hi Everyone!

Hey Carl,

Do hope you can fix it, we will all be waiting for this outstanding EP Filter!

Have a great day / evening!

Ron

[QUOTo]Morgantao wrote:
UPLOAD THE FILTER!
I love it the way it is now. You can alsways update later[/QUOTE]

YES, I agree with this. This well done as it is now. I know that it will not work right for small selections, small details or for text, but you can always update it and make it better later AND if you upload it to the library others could be able to help you make it better and get it the way you want it, if it would be possible in some way

Quote
Morgantao wrote: I dunno, the Lambo text looks great to me

Sorry that I have to disagree in this one, but I do not think that the Lambo text looks good, the example you have put of the Porsche is really well done.

I think that Carl is right in that the text does not look good as it is now

Compare the Lambo text



with your own example and I think that the text would be much better like the one here below if there could be a way to make it like this



In photoshop I think is easier because you have more tools to make it and probably they are using vector paths, that are not yet available in FF

Quote
Morgantao wrote: Well actually those examples I put here are actual embroyded logos. It's made with a special sawing machine that has a very special software designed only for those things...

Did you think that I thought that this logos you have put as examples were done on Photoshop

No, I knew that this comes fr om that special embrodery machines that can makes amazing specific designs with special software for making this

BUT I really have seen this same kind of Porsche logo done in Photoshop with an action and from a plain text source, I have searched for an example to show it but I do not remember wh ere I have seen it.

The option of edge stitching gives it much more versatility, but unfortunatly no one seems to have a solution, in case anyone didn't understand the problem I'm attaching a very basic example done ps, ..... if you can follow the edge, a more complex stitching could be easily bombed. I'm starting to beleive it's not possible in FF or requires some clever scripting thank for interest guys, this could be handy for other filter ideas as well

Good suggestion, I just had a look in side the filter and tried to see whether it could be adapted, it uses a method great for gradient shapes, unfortunatly not suitable for edge detected following .......... again I think scripting is the only answer ........ it's a challenge for a scripter and could be used in many other ways in filter

Pretty sure I have a technique for this

Quote
ubersev wrote: Pretty sure I have a technique for this

Please, show us that you are really the great genius, clever and expert filter forger that you have showed already in other many filters and projects. Please, do it again.

Now that there is an impressive image, there's another good one on that thread that shows it with stars all along the edge, so presumably the same can be done with a textured thread particle..

Will have to try this out for a new version of the Stitched Up filter..

I wish that you can find a solution for this and that it would work as you want, and hope that you can find it as it would be very good and interesting. If is not impossible, I am sure that all you FF experts can find a way to do it, you are clever and smart enough with great skills to be able to reach to a succesful result.

Uberzev could have a good help on this, but of course he is not the only one.

Quote
Carl: the marching ants looks a lot better than my attempts, has difficulty finding all the edges, thanks for links much appreciated

Sure! Both the marching ants technique and the derivative / offset method are going to be vastly faster and more precise than any bomber method. It really just matters what you're feeding it.

btw: The stars thing is actually easy to do: it's just a matter of a lookup node and repeating the gradient.

btw2: The thing that I want is a FF node that does a gradient from an arbitrary shape- Exactly like the Photoshop 'Outer Glow' or 'Inner Glow'. If you had that, then you could easily do dashed lines around arbitrary input shapes. Again, I have no idea why FF doesn't already have this very basic functionality ...

btw3: I was thinking that there may be some way to do the derivative / offset method better somehow by breaking the input shape into somekind of regular chunks. That might allow it have a maximum distance that it distributes the dashed across straight horizontal and vertical lines. Sort of split the difference w/ the marching ants method.

Quote
Carl wrote: I will release it soon as I spit and polish it

Perhaps you could also use one of these



I know that there is no FILTER polish cream, but perhaps could be good to make the filter more shiny

Or this

Here's my attempt at stitching with the expanded marching ants method... It use a lookup to put in a stitch, cant really see in this example as the stitches are pretty small but they are proper little stitches with stitchey thread texture on them.

Holly smokes! This looks AWSOME.
Only thing that you should change is the "grid" of the stitching. Maybe add a little distortion.

Quote
Yea, background fabric isn't done yet

That's actually not what I ment
In the attached photo I have highlighted what I mean. The stitching looks a little too ordered in some areas, as if there's a bunch of stripes masking the stitch thread.
Don't get me wrong, I'd use your filter in a heart beat, just if you wanna try and change something about it, this is a suggestion.

Quote
I'm more concerned with the problem that there's a few chopped in half stitches and little runty dot stitches that need smoothing out..

I don't know how these would look like in high res render, but right now they look like real thread defects.
Most stitches in the world are not perfect, so having those "runty dots" just adds to realism. And the chopped threads look like tiny defects in the thread itself, also adding to realism.

Jeans filter is totally what I wana go for too. I wana do a jeans effect with seams alongside the stitching and all the wear in the right places etc..

That's examples are fantastic SpaceRay. Photoshop actions should be easily translatable.

And some close up realistic stitching that is already done in Photoshop