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SpaceRay
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Hello, I have been looking in the library for a multicolored stripes generator but did not find any, there are many stripes filters, but all have only 2 or 3 colors.

The best example for I what I want is to make is Caramel by neotecno and Hazard Stripes (Rev B) by KGtheway2B

That lets you modify and have stripes of many widths and rotate them, but they only allow to have just 2 colors, and I want to have more than 2.

So I decided to make one myself. I have been reading a lot the FF instructions on how to make filters, the components, and have been looking how many filters are built and how they use the components.

BUT there is something I still do not understand and do not know how to do it, and is how to mix different colors to make them show as stripes.

I have been trying to mix and modify this filter and to add things to get what I want, but I have ended with a mess of nodes, and I am ashamed to share it here for you to see it, sorry. smile:blush:

This should be simple but I do not find how to mix the stripes in one image as the components I have seen have two colors, and then trying to use blend or multiblend I can´t make it to work.

I am Sorry that I am so newbie and do not know how to make something that seems to be very simple

For example for making a rainbow, or for mixing color stripes as shown here











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SpaceRay
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Here is the bad result I have had until know mixing the stripes of different colors with my own filter smile:(

I do not like it and is far from the ones above, but will continue working on it.

I still need to learn a lot to reach some decent and basic level of filter making

Any advice or tip you could have will be very welcomed

Thanks very much

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Morgantao
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There are several ways to make multicolor bands, but I think this one is simple and adaptable.

Multicolor Bands.ffxml
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Ghislaine
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Here another way with offset and impulse curve components. You play with the settings and change colors as needed.

Stripes.ffxml
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Morgantao
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If you just want a spectrum band, this is the worlds simplest way to do it, but it will have odd effect if you try it on other gradients.

Spectrum1.ffxml
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Morgantao
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If you want another simple one, that lets you play with Primary\Secondary colors, take a look at this one.

Spectrum2.ffxml
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SpaceRay
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Morgantao wrote:
There are several ways to make multicolor bands, but I think this one is simple and adaptable.


WOW Morgantao !! You have found a much simpler and easy solution to make multicolor bands that works really very well and is just what I was looking for and wanted !!

I have been complicating things, and using too many components for making something simple, I have used wrongly gradients, spectrum, blend and multiblend, and even tried with "tiles" and "bomber" getting weird results smile:D That is what happens when you have no experience and is still learning smile;)

Congratulations on your great and simple solution

Now I will continue the work from there and will add some other features, as rotation, multiple lines widths, textures, and more things, so it will be a very flexible and with many features stripes maker.

Thanks very much for the help

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Ghislaine wrote:
Here another way with offset and impulse curve components. You play with the settings and change colors as needed.


This is also a good idea and I give you my thanks for it, but I still need to learn more about the components to see how to use this.

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Morgantao wrote:
If you just want a spectrum band, this is the worlds simplest way to do it, but it will have odd effect if you try it on other gradients.


This is also a very good approach and different way and idea, and could work for another project, and could be useful too, but for now I prefer MUCH better your first option, because is much more close to what I want.
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SpaceRay
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Any idea on HOW to scramble and shuffle colors bands ? How to make a jumbled result ?

The tiles and pavement component have a jumble option but this are obviously with tiles and not with color bands so I do not think that I could use this components, unless there is some way to NOT use tiles.

I mean if have the result of the colorful bands but I want they to change randomly their position and interchange places with others colors, how would you do that?

Perhaps this needs a very different aproach, as you must have the control of the lines and bands.

I will see the Wiki help and components help and see what I can find and also if there could be some filter that could have something similar so I could see how is done
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Ghislaine
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I like numbers 4 and 6 of your stripes smile:)
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Morgantao
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Here's a simple way to make the color bands shuffle and jumbled.
The way I did it you get color bands of varying width, but with a little adaptation you can make them uniform.
Use the Variations controll to randomize the colors.

Multicolor Bands Random.ffxml
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SpaceRay
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I like numbers 4 and 6 of your stripes


Yes, I like them too, all this designs have been found on the internet searching in google images for "multicolored stripes". Perhaps you like them more (and me too) because they have good defined colors AND have a mortar black line separating each of the stripes, but I think that adding this "mortar black line" would be more complex, so for now will leave it just as it is. In another version I will probably add it.

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Morgantao wrote:
Here's a simple way to make the color bands shuffle and jumbled.
The way I did it you get color bands of varying width, but with a little adaptation you can make them uniform.
Use the Variations controll to randomize the colors.


WOW, This is perfect and lovely, and very well done in the way I wanted, Thanks really very much.

Although you have said that "Here´s a SIMPLE way to make...", well it can be SIMPLE for you that you already know very well how FF editor works as looking at the result and solution you have put is much more complex that I could have thought smile:D

Thanks again for your help again and now will continue learning and building my filter with the features, options and controls I want to add.

I am glad that this filter construction shown below is SIMPLE for you smile:) not yet for me smile:D

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Morgantao
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It's actually simpler than it looks.
The heart of it is just a 5-color gradient and a noise gradient for alpha. Then you just duplicate it all as many times you want in order to have more or less randomization.
Oh, and you can replace all the blends and set-alphas with one multiblend (And shame on me for not doing it the first time smile:| ).

Multicolor Bands Random B.ffxml
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Mardar
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I have been following your thread here on stripes and have been making my own stab at this for a while now. I don't know if this is like anyone else on here or not, as I don't know how to download the examples you have all posted. But here are some examples of what I can make in my filter. The bands are all the same size, but you can make some really nice multi colors from them.










These below are examples of same colors in different shades. (The blue one has a white bar on the far left. It is not narrower than the others. Same with the first picture posted above.)





Do any of you think this filter is of any use or good enough to submit to the library? smile:)
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Ghislaine
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Mardar, you just have to right click on the ffxml file and save it in your "my filters" folder in FF3 witch is in app/data, roaming, FF3, etc.
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Mardar
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Ghislaine, I have tried to do this and everytime all I get is an XML file that doesn't work as a FF filter. Do I need to change something in the file? I know nothing about code.
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Andrew B.

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Mardar, are you on a Mac?
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Mardar
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No I am on a PC. Windows XP
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Ghislaine
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Mardar, on this thread, there is no xml but just ffxml files. I know what you mean because I had problem too with .xml. But try to put the file in your document folder and then copy paste the ffxml into "My filters", as said.

I'm also on PC , Win7
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Mardar
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I right click and "save target as" (this is my only option). I then go save it in my applicationsData/filterforge3/myfilters. And all I get is this.



I have no idea why it will not download correctly.
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Carl
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mardar right click > save target as - then add the prefix .ffxml to the file name and save ....... I just save it to the desktop where I double click it and it opens in FF and is saved automaticly ....... chuck the one on the desktop in the bin and your done smile;)
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SpaceRay
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Mardar wrote:
Ghislaine, I have tried to do this and everytime all I get is an XML file that doesn't work as a FF filter. Do I need to change something in the file? I know nothing about code.


Are you using Internet Explorer ?

Because Internet Explorer does NOT recognize the ffxml format and transforms it into simple XML. the solution is to use any other browser that will download correctly in ffxml format

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Ghislaine wrote:
Mardar, you just have to right click on the ffxml file and save it in your "my filters" folder in FF3 witch is in app/data, roaming, FF3, etc.


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Carl wrote:
mardar right click > save target as - then add the prefix .ffxml to the file name and save ....... I just save it to the desktop where I double click it and it opens in FF and is saved automaticly ....... chuck the one on the desktop in the bin and your done


Carl you ONLY need to rename the prefix from .xml to .ffxml IF you use internet explorer, on the other browser the .ffxml is already written.

Ghislaine, as said by Carl, there is a much easier solution than this, right click on the file and choose "save target as" and save in ANY place you want, then go to the folder you have just downloaded the file and double click over the .ffxml file, it WILL BE COPIED AUTOMATICALLY to the "my filter" WITHOUT needing to go the app/data, roaming, FF3, etc.
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Carl
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Carl you ONLY need to rename the prefix from .xml to .ffxml IF you use internet explorer, on the other browser the .ffxml is already written.


Yes I already understand that Spaceray
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Mardar
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First, let me say I am sorry this thread has gotten off topic. I didn't mean for this to happen. smile:blush:

Second please let me say thank you to everyone for being so nice and helping me get this download thing figured out. I switched over to Firefox and downloaded to my desk top and clicked on them. TA DA!!! worked like a charm. Ghislaine, Carl, and SpaceRay, you are all just great for helping out. I'm not always the sharpest tool in the box. smile:D But I keep trying. smile;)
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Morgantao
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Mardar, I just noticed that we all gave you advice as to how to save the files found on the forum and none of us actually answered you question:
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Mardar wrote:]
Do any of you think this filter is of any use or good enough to submit to the library?

And to that the answer is YES. smile:!:
As I already told Ghislaine in the past, you never know when someone will need exactly that kind effect in his work. You should submit it. I mean, what's the worst that could happen - It wont be an EP or HU? So do most of the filters! smile:)

If you are uncomfortable with submitting it as a full blown filter, you can always release it as a snippet.
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Mardar
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Thanks Morgantao, I looked at everyone's striped filters in the editor and found that mine is different than everyone else's so I will submit mine. I really don't worry about EP or HU. I just like to think that someone out there can use them and enjoy them like I do. smile:)

Thanks again Morgantao. smile:love:
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Ghislaine
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Hello Mardar

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As said Morgantao, and he is right :
you never know when someone will need exactly that kind effect in his work. You should submit it. I mean, what's the worst that could happen - It wont be an EP or HU? So do most of the filters!


When I create filters, I do not have in mind to create for win an EP or a HU, but my intention is to share my works with the community, because it can be useful.

Our work will not please to everyone anyway. Because we have different needs. For example, I create 3d animated sceensavers, so I need landscapes, trees, waterspaces, etc. Before creating filters, I had to find stuff in the internet, now I create my own stuff. And why not to share what I have created with the community ! Someone can need my creations. And if he find something that I have created, he will be glad.

One person works with scrapbooking, another one for 3d models, another for games, etc. So we never know, but for sure, my work, your work and work of others can serve someone or more people in this community. The people who download our filters, someone it will be just for seeing how you did your filters. Someone else for another reason, because he needs what you have done. So, go ahead and share your work thinking that someone can need it. smile:)
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Mardar
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Thanks Ghislaine, I am going to submit my filter tonight. It should be up after the week end.

You are right, sharing with others is what keeps me working at making new filters. I learn something new every day I play with the components. smile:)
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Ghislaine
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sharing with others is what keeps me working at making new filters. I learn something new every day I play with the components


Yes !!!! It is really and exactly what I'm thinking about. I also love to play with componets and try different things and it is the best thing to do for discovering new way to give at components and filters. I lean every day as you said. And I cannot pass one day without going in my filter editor. smile:)
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SpaceRay
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You are right, sharing with others is what keeps me working at making new filters. I learn something new every day I play with the components


I agree with you, sharing with others and think that this could be useful to others and use it keeps you working to make new filters and have new ideas.

I have just began learning how to use the components and also I learn something new each time.

When I have put this thread I had a plain and simple rainbow style multiband filter, but now this project has grown and is MUCH more ambitious and bigger, with more options and features.
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Morgantao
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Ghislaine wrote:
I cannot pass one day without going in my filter editor.

Spoken like a true FF user smile;)
I too, cannot stop myself from messing with components in the editor every day, and find new and cool stuff you can do with them all the time.
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SpaceRay
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I too, cannot stop myself from messing with components in the editor every day, and find new and cool stuff you can do with them all the time.


I think that this is contagious, and I am also falling into the addiction smile:D

If USING the filters alone is very good, USING the filter editor and learn how to MAKE them yourself is ALSO much fun and interesting and even more addictive. smile:D
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Ghislaine
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If USING the filters alone is very good, USING the filter editor and learn how to MAKE them yourself is ALSO much fun and interesting and even more addictive.


Yesssssss !

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this is contagious


I think so ! smile:)
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