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Hello, I have just seen this article that can be seen here with stunning and awesome artworks made with Jelly Beans !!!



I also have just found this video of Youtube made ALL with Jelly beans and then a detailed explanation on how it was done as you can see here in this link

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/11/03/s...lly-beans/

This deserves really a high prize and reward for patience and time spent on making this works of art (and also the money spent on buying all those thousands of jelly beans smile:D )

But what I did not know is that there are really LOTS of artworks made with Jelly Beans !!!! as you can see in this link to Google images search for "jelly beans art"

And in this link to other Jelly beans art article you will find higher resolution images shown to see better the tiny jelly beans.

And here a link to a collection of many of those jelly art made with thousands of Jelly Beans. Please, see them here

I would never ever be able to make this kind of art with jelly beans as I do not have the patience and time for this, and will not spend the money on those thousands beans. smile:D

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WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE A FILTER IN FILTER FORGE THAT COULD CONVERT A PHOTO INTO A JELLY BEAN ART IMAGE ?


After all this I wonder if there could be some way to cheat and be able to use Filter Forge (FF) to make this kind of jelly bean art WITHOUT having to do it manually, I mean to use a photo and get FF to do all the hard work and convert all the details and colors to jelly beans.

I really think that probably will be very difficult to do, because you must take account for all the shapes and orientation of the shapes, colors and hues of the original photo.

One possible solution is to SIMPLIFY all the shapes and colors of the photo and leave the most important outlines and colors with shades of hues.

And also is very difficult because of the reflective and soft specular nature of the jelly bean surface.

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BUT THERE IS ALREADY A JELLY BEAN ART MAKER !!! BUT IS BADLY DONE


Who would be interested in making a jelly bean art maker ?

Well, one very big jelly bean factory that produces lots of different jelly beans

Here is the link to the Jelly Beans Art Maker

BUT this one is really NOT very good, because it has taken the VERY EASY way to make a jelly bean artwork, and ONLY use all straight jelly beans and only in one direction, and ONLY changes the colors of the jelly beans according to the photos color, hue and shades.

This jelly bean maker DOES NOT FOLLOW or is similar to the artworks shown here that have many different shapes, curves and lines and are not all straight at all.

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FILTER FORGE PROBABLY COULD DO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS


Instead of making ALL the beans straight and all inline, perhaps and probably it could be done a filter that rotates the jelly beans according to the shapes of the outlines of the photo and fill the photo will multiple direction beans.

The best example I can find of this where you can see all the different directions of the jelly beans (instead of all the straight and rigid from the Jelly bean art maker) is this picture here shown below



And when lloking at what has been possible to make with the awesome Van Gogh´s Flow filter I think that it could really be possible to make that the jelly beans to follows the paths and shapes of photos as is done in this filter.

I have seen this already done FF filter already done called The Red Pill by natrix natrix


Well this is just a texture maker of pills, and is not colorful jelly beans and are FF generated.
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Mongoose King
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Well, I had a go at a jelly bean filter based on the script and bomber in the van gogh flow filter with bean particles and a surface.

Here's the result, the one thing that I don't think can be fixed is the beans overlapping. There's a few more adjustments that need doing, like restricting the possible bean colours to a limited palette.

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Mongoose King
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Here's one of Van Gogh's stary night, though, doesn't quite work as the filter makes up it's own spirals that conflict with the ones already in the picture :S

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Mongoose King
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I took the elvis jelly bean picture from the top, and surface blurred it to remove all beanness and then put that into my filter to see how it would compare... The main thing is, FF can't get the beans so neat, but it does give nice flowing curves with the beans.

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Good job mongoose, this is very close to the original!
One thing that you may wanna try is making the beans a bit smaller and more reflective, so the surface looks more like the original.
A more important thing is to get the color to be more vibrant... The colors in the filter look a bit smoky.
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Mongoose King
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I have a bean size slider and reflectivity, The colours are a bit of a problem, I added a contrast slider, however it doesn't seem to make much difference.

I'm trying to think of how to do that kind of posterized effect with the limited palette, I'd like to be able to have it do things like on the original elvis one, the way the red and yellow do that transition. At the moment it has infinite bean colours, well, HDR colour beans. But real beans aren't even 8 bit colours, there are only 50 flavors and some of those are the same colour bean just with spots. I tried a tone curve with a stairs curve, but it causes a lot of cyan and magenta to show up, which isn't a very beanish colour.

I'll figure it out i'm sure
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Mongoose King
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Just tried a new tweak, used lil trick with a blend and extract RGB to find areas with low saturation an force them all the way to white or black to stop the funny little bits of cyan and magenta popping up.. may cause problems on some images but worked well on the lifesaver...

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Mongoose King
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that uses a stairs tone curve to set it to 125 colours and then very low staturation ons are sent to black/grey/white so probably under 100 posible bean colours, i have an idea to test it...
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Mongoose King
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Here's a test of the beans with restricted colour palette vs all colours...

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Morgantao
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I have to say the Restricted palette looks better than the HDR bean.
Very well done! The lifesaver is looking exelent! smile8)
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Mongoose King
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Here's bean elvis again in the new palette...

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SpaceRay
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WOW !! Very well done. Very good idea to use the Van Gogh filter to modify it into jelly beans smile:)

I have forgot that I have posted this suggestion, you have done a very good choice smile:)

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Morgantao wrote:
One thing that you may wanna try is making the beans a bit smaller and more reflective, so the surface looks more like the original.


Yes I agree that if making the beans smaller and more to be able to choose how much smaller or bigger depending of the kind of picture image, and more important depending on the final size resolution.

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I have a bean size slider and reflectivity, The colours are a bit of a problem, I added a contrast slider, however it doesn't seem to make much difference.


Great thing that you have a bean size slider and can change the reflectivity as beans are normally shiny.

Perhaps the contrast slider, is not enough, Why not add a LEVELS components, when I was making my filter I had also problems with the colors and contrast, and found that adding Levels would be much easier to correct and customized the colors as desired and colors were much vibrant and stronger.

The one I like most is this one that looks very real and lovely



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Here's a test of the beans with restricted colour palette vs all colours...


Very good idea to make a restricted colour palette, as they look better and do not get confused the different shades and is more straigth to the point.
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Skybase
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I dare somebody to just use only the original jelly bean colors to produce the ultimate jelly bean filter.
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SpaceRay
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Ooohh ! Yes this looks better than the previous one and more defined, good work.



BUT as said by Morgantao, I think that the jelly beans are still too big in this case, and looses detail, at least from my point of view.

PREPARING THE IMAGE BEFORE APPLYING THE FILTER ?

Perhaps would be a good idea that if you already know that you want to use this filter, would be good to optimize and customize the image so you could get the most from the filter and be easier to it to position and get good detail.

My suggestion is NOT to be added to the filter itself, this should be done with an external image editor.

The idea I thing and suggest is to use a simplify filter to reduce the number of colours (one very good is from topaz labs) and then rise the contrast, sharpen much more and could apply a dragan effect style to have crisp shapes border.
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SpaceRay
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VIDEO ART MAKING WITH JELLY BEANS

288.000 Jellybeans to make this music video that all the backgrounds are animated images with jelly beans !!!!

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Kina Grannis’ stop-motion video took 1,357 hours of work throughout 22 months. 288,000 jelly beans (all donated by the Jelly Belly company) were used to make 2,460 different frames which were put together into the sweetest, most impressive music video I have ever seen.


http://www.odditycentral.com/videos/s...beans.html

Amazing how much patience they should have to make this video

Here is the video ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOu0DuxFAT0

Here is the whole story on HOW was done that is interesting too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIH4MJAC2Tg
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Mongoose King
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Been twiddling a bit more with the filter. It works best with nice bold colours, dark colours do not work well, nor does lots of small detail. Crisp bold edges are good otherwise you get a jumble of colours along edges where the bomber is picking the smoothed/antialiased edge and it's a funny colour.

I added sliders to let you boost saturation and brightness of the image before beanification.

Anyway, here it is if anyone wants a play and suggest any tweaks.

Van Gogh Jelly Beans 4.ffxml
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Mongoose King
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The elvis is a bit of a rubbish image to be using really, as I lost a lot of detail debeaning him from the beany original.

Here's the filter forge fishy showing more detail.

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SpaceRay
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YES!! now it looks much better, and is true that the elvis image is NOT the best one to show.

WOW you have shared already your filter !!!! smile:eek:
I can´t believe it smile:eek:

YES, this is the best way to know how it works and if it needs some tweaks and make you suggestions, I will try it and tell you what I think and if something could be done better or fixed.

Thanks very much !!! smile:ff: smile:ff:

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It works best with nice bold colours, dark colours do not work well, nor does lots of small detail. Crisp bold edges are good otherwise you get a jumble of colours along edges


YES, is true and is what I have suggested above, it will be much better to have greater surface of colours and less detail. I mean that using a photo of a detailed thing would not be good as a flower or something that has many details.
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Well, I realised it's actually pretty much done, not much else to do on it, just got to try it out some more and probably submit it by monday.

Just rendered a big picture.. maximum number of beans I let the slider go up to...


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Just rendered a big picture.. maximum number of beans I let the slider go up to...


WOW, this looks perfect and lovely !!!!! Very well done.

You have made a great filter that shows that my words in my first post are true !!!

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FILTER FORGE PROBABLY COULD DO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS


As I thought your creation of the Beany Night smile:D is MUCH better than the original one made with REAL Jelly Beans as you can see here



My greatest congratulations !! I prefer and like much better your own version of the virtual FF beans smile:)

Perhaps the only missing part are the houses in the bottom, but surely this is NOT your fault, as the image source does not have probably enough detail and definition and does not have the BRAIN to rebuild the image as the human artist can make as it happens in the real bean art.

ALSO YOU CAN ADD LATER MORE COLOURS AND DEFINE MORE SOME OF THE BEANS INSIDE PHOTOSHOP
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SpaceRay
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WOW!!! If was already surprised looking at your examples, now that I have made my OWN tests and see the REAL thing I am MUCH MORE impressed and stunned !!!

You have a made really great and excellent work !! and the Jelly beans look VERY REALISTIC in my opinion !!

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Mongoose King
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Yes, a little bit of bean placement in photoshop after is probably the best way to get little details in. Setting the bean density to 1 gives you lots of spaced out beans you could cut and paste. I might add a beans on alpha option to give floating disembodied beans you could use for that.
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Mongoose King
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oohh great beanflow in that pic Spaceray, I still don't understand Darrell's van gogh flow script but it sure does a great job.


I'm amused by the lil norton pop up, hehe, filter forge using the CPU too intensively? who'd a thought it?
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SpaceRay
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Here is the final whole example, the above one is just a close up detail

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The Jelly Bean White tiger !!! Great !!!

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oohh great beanflow in that pic Spaceray, I still don't understand Darrell's van gogh flow script but it sure does a great job.


Thanks, glad you like it. AND this is a very fast test without having preparing the photo first !!

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I'm amused by the lil norton pop up, hehe, filter forge using the CPU too intensively? who'd a thought it?


smile:D YES smile:D I did not notice that this was included until I seen it in the forum and was going to take it out but then you posted and now is impossible.

This happened because I can´t wait until FF renders ALL the image, so I use the Snagit software to make the capture screenshot and on that moment Norton told me that message smile:D

I did not know before that FF makes intensive use of the CPU smile:D smile:D
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Mongoose King
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Nice! I need more pics to try this on. All the pics I have are all dark and industrial, lol, no good bean worthy pics.

There's one downside to this filter though....

It's making me really hungry for some jelly beans.
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SpaceRay
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Here is detailed close up of the tiger and you can see how well done are the beans distribution and position. Very well done and good work. Congratulations again !!

AND ALL THIS IS JUST WITH THE DEFAULT FIRST PRESET without changing any setting !!

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Morgantao
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Wow.
I mean... WOW!
Mongoose,you truely are a king! This is so awesome!!! smile8)

SpaceRay, as usual, great examples that show just how wonderfull this filter is. smile:)

I may not speak spanish, but I can figure out what "Uso intensivo de CPU por FilterForge" means smile:D
And now it's official, even Norton thinks FF chewes on CPUs like... Jelly beans smile:D
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Nice! I need more pics to try this on. All the pics I have are all dark and industrial, lol, no good bean worthy pics.


You can have some very good and very high quality photos FOR FREE in this website www.depositphotos.com , please see this link here that explains HOW to get 35 excellent and high resolution photos TOTALLY FREE and WITHOUT ANY OBLIGATION to continue with the paying subscription.

http://depositphotos.com/buyer-price.html#free_trial

I have got this images above from THIS website and have not had any problem with the FREE trial, but do not cancel the FREE subscription until the last day or one day before, as then you can´t use it anymore.

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NOTE: I do not have any relation with this company and do not get nothing for putting this link here, and hope that this is not taken as I am making any kind of publicity, I put ONLY this to help Mongoose King to get some high quality and good images for him.
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SpaceRay
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And here one more (also from the above website) that shows well what powerful this filter can be.

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And here is one close up with more detail to see the well done Jelly Beans

Mongoose King of the Jelly Beans smile:D

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SpaceRay, as usual, great examples that show just how wonderfull this filter is.


Thanks smile8) smile:) , I try to do it the best I can to help you see examples of what could be done.

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I may not speak spanish, but I can figure out what "Uso intensivo de CPU por FilterForge" means
And now it's official, even Norton thinks FF chewes on CPUs like... Jelly beans


YES smile:D as you probably guess already it means "CPU Intensive use by Filter Forge" smile:D

Well really is the CPU is the only thing that Filter Forge can get benefit and work very well from a computer (at least in the Professional version that has multicore support) as any of the other parts of the computer are not supported by FF.
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...as any of the other parts of the computer are not supported by FF.


That's not true, SpaceRay. Filterforge fully supports a mouse AND keyboard too. smile:D
BTW, how much RAM does your mouse have? And how many processors in your keyboard?

And while I'm in a good mood, Mongoose, when I looked at your filter zoomed in, I realized the jelly beans look NOTHING like the real ones. There's no "Jelly Belly" logo on them smile:D
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That's not true, SpaceRay. Filterforge fully supports a mouse AND keyboard too.

BTW, how much RAM does your mouse have? And how many processors in your keyboard?


smile:D smile:D very good smile:D smile:D Sorry that I did not specify more, I mean INSIDE the computer box smile;)

If you count the things OUTSIDE, you forgot to mention that it also supports the monitor smile;)

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There's no "Jelly Belly" logo on them


YES, this a great error and very BAD from Mongoose King smile:D smile:D

BUT I know why he did not include it, because he has yet not received the authorization from the Jelly Belly Company to use their logo in each of the beans, as it has copyright smile;)
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All the jelly beans in this filter have the Jelly Belly logo on them.

It's just on the other side smile:p


Found this: http://www.jellybelly.com/fun_stuff/o...guide.aspx
all the official flavours..
If anyone ever makes a script that converts colours to indexed colours then I can use this to make them all the exact colours smile:)

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This is a really cool filter. Looks almost like the real thing. Good job Mongoose King. smile;)
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All the jelly beans in this filter have the Jelly Belly logo on them.

It's just on the other sidehttp://www.filterforge.com/bitrix/images/forum/smile/tongue.gif


Very good answer smile:D It´s true you have got the ADDITIONAL work that your filter have to ALSO hide all the logos of the jelly beans wich is also difficult, and you are doing the opposite as this Jelly beans artist smile:D

http://newslite.tv/2010/04/16/jelly-b...-swee.html

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Malcolm say each of his portraits can take a week of eight hour days to complete.

That's because he even goes to the effort of making sure that Jelly Belly logo is facing out from the canvas on every single bean.


You have achieved that all the logos are facing IN smile;)
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Perhaps one good source is the Pop Art style solid colors found on some artworks that have also clear and defined borders and lines.

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Here is a more detailed close up to see the beans better

If you want to see the source, see this link here

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ALSO YOU CAN ADD LATER MORE COLOURS AND DEFINE MORE SOME OF THE BEANS INSIDE PHOTOSHOP


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Yes, a little bit of bean placement in photoshop after is probably the best way to get little details in.

Setting the bean density to 1 gives you lots of spaced out beans you could cut and paste. I might add a beans on alpha option to give floating disembodied beans you could use for that.


Yes, your idea can be good, BUT this is NOT what I thought when I told that after you can add later more colors and define more some of the beans and correct some wrong colors.

My idea is NOT to add anymore beans, or move them, or cut them, JUST to change the colors of the ones already available with the "Replace color", "Hue saturation", "or Black & white" or some other similar tool

Here is one example I have got to show this, Here attached below is the original result made by the bean filter

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Well, I have changed easily the colors in Photoshop using "replace color" for the pink and green beans that had the wrong color on the hair and in the arm, and change the green eye.

The after I made some selections to define much more the shape of the hair, and the arms so you can see many lost beans that have been OUT of the main shape and seem to be floating in mid air and does not look good.

As the background is Black and white, after making the selections I have used the "convert to black and white" to delete the colors of all those missing and lost beans.

And the final result can be seen below, you can compare both.

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If you want to see the REAL source of this photo to compare with the original, you can find it here in this link here

Search for the one with the title "Marilyn Monroe Paintings for Sale" (the number 5) and click on open image in a new tab and it will take you here

I could have colored the eyes to the original green as seen in the photo, but this is more work, and as this is just an example, I have leaved them black.
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The green beans tend to appear in black areas a lot, it's caused by the reducing the pallette, the black in pictures is often a bit green and so they get bumped over, edges are a similar problem. The restrict low saturation can help on fully black grey or white areas, but wouldn't do much for Marilyn here as her arm and hair shouldn't be totally black and white anyway..

Those particular green ones do seem rather predominant though, I'll see if I can figure out a better tweak to reduce the incidence of green bean.

The escaped beans are a byproduct of bean contrast. It breaks up edges like for the grey background, but does cause bean escapes across edges you don't want.

The Roy Lichtenstein one looks brilliant.
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I found that reducing the amount of green in shadows and highlights on the original in photoshop helped. Playing with colour balance threw the background off, but that was fixed by using restrict low saturation.

Anyway, I added more options for the restricted colours, there's now a slide to pick the size of the palette, also, there is an option to preserve colours so they are still restricted in the number of colours, but can't vary wildly from the original. It is kind of bland compared to the wild colours of the usual restricted palette, but it's good to have the option...

Here's Marilyn with that setting on..

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